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Kara Lynn
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Re: Pictures of CP soap process...
« Reply #40 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 6:23am » |
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #41 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 7:10am » |
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Bump for Trejan. Well actually, I'll make this a sticky for now, so it doesn't get lost.
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #42 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 11:54am » |
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(Big sigh here)
You're really trying to kill me, aren't you, Robin?
I've been hankering to try me some CP. I told myself I'd make a few more batches of the HPCP (or is it CPHP?) before... but darrnit, this looks so tempting!!
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #43 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 5:35pm » |
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cooommmmmeee onnnnnnnn... Groovy! You know you want to! Go for it. If you can do the crockpot stuff, the cp is a piece of cake!
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #44 on: Oct 24th, 2004, 10:53pm » |
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Robin,
Loved your tutorial. I have been making CP soap for about a year now (actually hubby has been doing most of it since i got prego and couldn't mess with the lye). I started out on glycerin soap and took the big plunge and became an immediate addict to CP soapmaking. All of my soaps have been successful as far as getting soap is concerned. BUT, sometimes I feel as if the scent is not very strong in CP (well, at least in my CP). We have been making 16 # batches at a time and using approx. 8 os of FO and of course, less EO.
In your recipe for the 2# batch you say to add 2 oz of FO. So, my  ? is am I under scenting? It would seem by your recipe that I should be using 1 oz of FO per LB of soap. Is this correct?
Your soaps look great, I have done some swirling but can't wait to try your technique.
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Michelle 
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #45 on: Oct 24th, 2004, 10:56pm » |
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Not Robin.. But I can say that I use one ounce per pound of oils of most of me scents.. Peaks lavender being a huge exception.. Used .2 oz per pound and it rocks! I'm just starting with eo's, but I usually total it up to .75 per pound of oils, with the exception of citrus's, then I up to it 1 oz ppo...
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #46 on: Oct 24th, 2004, 11:13pm » |
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Bunnyblossom,
thanks for the info. So you are saying 1 oz per pound of oils not per pound of soap, right.
My 16 # recipe hase 172 oz of soft and hard oils, if I divide by by 16 I get 10.75 LBs of oils. So should I be uning 10.75 oz of FO?
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Michelle
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #47 on: Nov 9th, 2004, 3:26pm » |
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Not bunny, but yup, if you're doing that large of a batch, then that's how much to use. I use around .7 oz of FO per pound of oils, I scent a bit lighter.
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Robin in OR
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #48 on: Nov 18th, 2004, 5:59pm » |
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Robin -
I only just now saw this! How gorgeous your soap is...and how helpful your pictures and notes are - thank you!
My question: When you covered your mold with towels, was it just a wooden lid you had over the soap or did you have plastic wrap on it?
What do you think about this...I still haven't made more than one batch myself (which was successful) but on top of the mold, I put a clear plastic lid which goes to a plastic storage bin (I got at Storables) and which just happened to fit nicely over the wooden mold, letting some air in on two sides but not a whole lot (lid stuck out on two sides). Under, over and around the mold I had thick blankets. I'm wondering if I should use this plastic lid again or if I should use plastic wrap, OR if I should just lay downt the wooden lid, OR (!) if I should use both pastic wrap and the wooden lid. As I may have told you before, my lid fits inside the mold - not on top. But I think when the mold's lined, it might sort of sit on top instead of sinking in too far. Does your lid fit into the mold or just on top? In general, when the lid goes inside, I'm assuming we should have plastic wrap over the soap (loosely?) so the wood won't get soap on it?
I know I've just bombarded you with questions - so maybe you could just answer a few of them best you can!  Thanks so much -
Marya
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #49 on: Nov 18th, 2004, 6:23pm » |
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My lid is wooden and doesn't touch the soap, so I can't help you with -touching-the-soap lids  I've even been known to use unfolded USPS priority boxes as a lid under the towels. Anything to support the weight of the towels. I do fancy tops and botanicals, that's why I don't like anything touching. So your plastic lid might work - I've used the sterlite box lids too.
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #50 on: Nov 18th, 2004, 10:30pm » |
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Thanks - I guess I'll try using the plastic lid again since it worked last time, and I'll try using plastic wrap and my lid after xmas (when I'll have more time to be able to risk screwing up recipes and experiment more)!
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #51 on: Dec 16th, 2004, 1:51pm » |
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Robin, how do you decide what percentages of each type of oil to use in a recipe? Do you know of a website that might be helpful here? I would like to try CP soap and I have some various oils, but need to know what can/cannot be used together, and in what ratios, etc. I have seen lots of recipes, but none that use the ingredients I already have on hand. I have canola oil, sweet almond, cocoa butter, a little jojoba oil, some fractionated coconut oil (ordered by accident), and some beeswax. Any help would be greatly appreciated. BTW, your CP tutorial is great and I just wanted to give it a try. Thanks.
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #52 on: Dec 16th, 2004, 2:02pm » |
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Thanks!
Here's an old thread with some general ideas of how to put a recipe together. http://www.candletech.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=bathandbody;acti on=display;num=1083041679
Most of your oils are soft, so could be sub'd in for a recipe's soft oils. Coco butter is nice - I've seen it used all the way up to 25%. Never used FCO, too spendy.
Once you sub, then you just need to recalculate lye and water.
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Robin in OR
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #53 on: Dec 16th, 2004, 2:12pm » |
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!. Looks like this is just what I need. (Oh, and did I say thank you?) 
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #54 on: Jan 4th, 2005, 12:19pm » |
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And here I thought that CP soaps were hard to make.
After reading your tutorial, it all seems rather simple.
Gonna go out and pick up some lye today. Just need to see if I have enough olive oil left and find a suitable mold and I am in business.
Thanks for the nice write up.
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #55 on: Jan 4th, 2005, 12:50pm » |
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You're welcome!
The actual process *is* rather simple. It's the math and making sure you're using the correct amount of lye that's the most critical part, understanding the safety requirements.
But if you understand *why* a certain amount of lye is being used, and measure correctly, then, yeah, it's fairly simple. Just like making candles is fairly simple.
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Re: Pictures of CP soap process...
« Reply #56 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 6:06pm » |
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[quote author=RobinN link=board=bathandbody;num=1078003334;start=0#5 date=02/28/04 at 17:11:44]
Make a 2# batch, about the smallest you can go and still measure properly. That will make a loaf of 8 bars, so a loaf that's 8" long, about 3.5" wide, and 2.5" tall.
Olive Oil (35%) 11.2 oz
Palm Oil (35%) 11.2 oz
Canola (20%) 6.4 oz
Coconut Oil (10%) 3.2 oz
lye 4.3 oz
distilled water 12 oz
1.5 - 2 oz of soap safe FO, or 1 - 1.5 oz EO
Olive oil, use any kind. Cheaper the better
Sorry just a few questions Olive Oil I ahve Oilive butter can that be subbed or just stop being difficult and get olive oil? Can i use palm kernal flakes in place of palm oil? I dont know what canola oil is but I guess my question is I have an abundance of sunflower oil and apricot kernal oil can i use those instead of anything else on this list??
I have been eyeing everything in this house fr the last 2 hours trying to build a mold lol
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Re: Pictures of CP soap process...
« Reply #57 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 6:47pm » |
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on Jan 5th, 2005, 6:06pm, tracey wrote:
Sorry just a few questions Olive Oil I ahve Oilive butter can that be subbed or just stop being difficult and get olive oil? Can i use palm kernal flakes in place of palm oil? I dont know what canola oil is but I guess my question is I have an abundance of sunflower oil and apricot kernal oil can i use those instead of anything else on this list??
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Yes, stop being difficult and get the Olive Oil! Most butters normally don't get used at above 5-10%, so this would just be a waste of wonderful Olive Butter.
Palm and Palm Kernal Flakes are not interchangable.
Ok, let's make this easy. Tell me what you do have, and we'll build a recipe together, and I'll tell you why I put what amounts where. I may send you to Wal Mart, but it won't be too bad...
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Re: Pictures of CP soap process...
« Reply #58 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 9:33pm » |
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on Jan 5th, 2005, 6:47pm, bunnyblossom wrote:
Yes, stop being difficult and get the Olive Oil! Most butters normally don't get used at above 5-10%, so this would just be a waste of wonderful Olive Butter.
Palm and Palm Kernal Flakes are not interchangable.
Ok, let's make this easy. Tell me what you do have, and we'll build a recipe together, and I'll tell you why I put what amounts where. I may send you to Wal Mart, but it won't be too bad...
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I just asked because I have this olive butter and have no clue what to do with it lol.
I have sunflower oil, coconut oil, palm kernal flakes, apricot kernal oil and I have about 1/2 pound of mango butter left. If I can use any of these I would lke to or I will stop being difficult and go to the strore =0)
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Re: Link to Cold-Process Soap Tutorial
« Reply #59 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 10:54pm » |
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Ok, here's the recipe, but it's going to be an expensive, yet wonderful feeling bar of soap!
Apricot - Can be used at up to 50%. Very high in vitamin A, and is wonderful for sensative skin.
Coconut - Can be used at 100%, but generally used at 20% or lower. This oil resists rancidity and makes a very hard soap, while at the same time producing a fluffy lather. This oil is for cleansing.
Palm Kernal - Generally used at 10-30%, allows more cleansing than coconut alone, without the drying effects of too much coconut. Helps create a very hard bar, and creates beautiful lather, even in hard water.
Mango Butter - Generally used at 5-10% High in unsaponifiables, meaning it leaves many wonderful moisturizing qualitites in the finished product, but too much can lead a bar to go rancid because of the unsaponified material. Too much can also be sticky in the finished product.
Olive Butter - Use 3-12.5% Very moisturizing and conditioning.
Ok, I'll shut up and give you the recipe now...lol You could greatly cut your costs by replacing 20% of the Apricot Kernal with Olive and re-running through a lye calculator. (Unless you have a wonderful supplier!)
Apricot Kernel Oil 11.6oz 36.25%
Coconut Oil 4.1oz 12.81%
Mango Butter 2.6oz 8.13%
Olive Butter 2.6oz 8.13%
Palm Kernel Oil 7oz 21.88%
Sunflower Oil 4.1oz 12.81%
Total Weight 32 oz (2 lbs)
4.5 Ounces of Lye
12 ounces of Water
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