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« on: Jun 26th, 2005, 10:01pm »
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I have a question for anyone who uses the feathering palm wax. Normally I use soy for my pillars but I have been giving this wax a try. I love it except it has to be poured at a very hot temperature, 200 degrees. I tie a knot in the wick, use plummers putty around the wick, and duct tape the top and it still leaks. Not a ton but enough to bother me. I need to know if anyone can recommend something that will stand up to the heat better than the plummers putty. Or knows a better way to seal the mold. Thanks  Smiley
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Re: feather palm wax pillars  
« Reply #1 on: Jun 26th, 2005, 10:08pm »
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Try metal tape, that might work better.  You can find it at Ace Hardware and some other hardware stores.  I use it alot and it works awesome for me.
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Re: feather palm wax pillars  
« Reply #2 on: Jun 26th, 2005, 10:55pm »
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I second the metal tape.  I usually put 2 or 3 pieces on, and mash it down well, and have never had a leak.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 26th, 2005, 11:47pm »
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so you just use the tape and thats all? Do you tie a knot in the wick?
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 27th, 2005, 12:30am »
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You shouldnt have to put a knot in the wick when using the tape.
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Re: feather palm wax pillars  
« Reply #5 on: Jun 27th, 2005, 5:54am »
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Hello JR:
Just wondering your reason for having to pour the feathering palm wax so hot (200*)?  I played around for some time with the feathering, crystalline, etc. palm waxes and did not pour that hot to get a beautiful effect.  What I did was bring my wax up to 200*, poured into pouring pot, added my color and stirred well, then waited for the wax to cool to just under 180* to add my fragrance, added fragrance stirred well, and then poured into heated molds.  Always came out beautiful.
 
The reason I waited for the wax to cool to just under 180* to add the fragrance is, you risk the possibility of burning off some of the fragrance notes if you add it at 180*, or higher.  At least this has been my experience.  
Have you tried pouring a bit cooler to see what happens?  I always use duck tape; no knot in my wick though, and it works great.  I have not poured any wax at 200* though, so cannot comment on the durability of the duct tape at that temperature.  HTH
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Re: feather palm wax pillars  
« Reply #6 on: Jun 27th, 2005, 10:22am »
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Make sure the mold is clean on the bottom and use a piece of metal tape (I have never tied a knot in the wick) use something to press down and get a good seal between the mold and tape ( I use the bottom of a wooden spoon) I clean with first the heat gun to remove any wax residue and then goo gone followed by alcohol followed by a clean paper towel. I use the cheap metal tape from wal-mart and just one piece and I never have a problem with leaks (except when I get lazy and don't clean the molds all the way Grin) I also pour at 200 because after playing with this wax for several years I get the best consistent results at 200.  It may make a difference where you get the palm from?? I've only used one source .
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 27th, 2005, 10:41am »
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Thanks everyone this really helps!! I will try the metal tape and clean the top better first.  
I have tried to pour at lower temps before and I didn't get the pretty effect. I consulted the distributor - Candlewic.com - and they told me it was supposed to be poured at 200 or even 210. My fragrance is still very strong even at this temp. It funny I finally got the wicks right in this, then this problem turned up. I remember when I started all of this thinking, "how hard can it be to make a candle?" Boy if I only knew.  Cheesy
Thanks again for the help guys.
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 6:18pm »
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I don't heat it up that high either, just around 175 or so. I do preheat the molds with a heatgun and cool in an oven though (warmed and then shut off). I use wickpins all the time.
 
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 29th, 2005, 8:39am »
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Henry that candle is beautiful!!!
 
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 29th, 2005, 12:37pm »
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Thanks,
 
I did mess up that corner on that one trying to even out the repours on the bottom with a heat gun (stupid I know).  
 
Its much easier to do it with a sharp knife, then just glaze over it quickly with a heat gun to smooth it out.
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