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lovebug7480
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Greetings again everyone, I have attached a picture of my problem in regards to the HTP 73/votive. This is what they generally look like after the melt pool drops off. I've tried a wick lower but the flame just burns itself out. Some come out better than this, some worse, depending on how well the wick is centered. I find it needs to be a touch offset because of the curl of the wick. This is why I'm hoping the cotton wicks have a more even melt pool. Any suggestions?
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kaybee23
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #1 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 7:23pm » |
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It is hard to tell, is that a straight sided votive cup?
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lovebug7480
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #2 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 7:32pm » |
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Yes, it is straight and just curves up towards the top, but it is straight where the votive itself is.
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kaybee23
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #3 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 8:29pm » |
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My only recommendation would be to burn it in a straight sided votive cup. It will help to keep the heat in the cup and may help with the melt pool. When you put it in a cup that is not straight it allows the meltpool to spread out, thus the need for a bigger wick. I would burn it in a straight sided votive cup and see what happens.
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lovebug7480
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #4 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 8:55pm » |
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I actually have tried in the straight sided and it does the same thing. The only difference is that later on after it has burned for awhile, the sides of the votive cup have have less wax and is more liquified in the more straight sided votive cup.
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kaybee23
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #5 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 9:22pm » |
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If you have only given it one burn in the straight sided, I would give it a couple of burns. Sometimes on subsequent burns, it catches up. Maybe your wick is too short? If you try these and still have an issue, I would just try a larger wick, but it seems like a 73 should do the trick.
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scottopus
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #6 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 5:52am » |
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Quote:| I've tried a wick lower but the flame just burns itself out. |
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What wick did you try?
Also, could you answer my question that I have from your other thread.
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Beth_VT
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #7 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 10:32am » |
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Perhaps you could post a pic of that candle/holder from the side?
From the look of the top part of the candle, it appears to me that the holder is no where near snug enough (straight or not) to prevent the blow out that's occured.
I know you said you tried a straight holder as well, but this pic is really misleading as to the real problem. It's clear that the top (I"m guessing) 3/4" or more isn't even close to being snug fitting, thus allowing the melt pool to blow out the side and spill.
The holder should be snug fitting all the way up and beyond the top of the votive. HTH.
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maryann
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #8 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 5:22pm » |
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What is the diameter of your votive holder? I'm big into using cotton wicks which burn alittle hotter. Plus I treat my votive like a container candle; wicking and pouring right into the votive holder- is that an option for you?
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LynnS
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #9 on: Jul 4th, 2005, 10:54am » |
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I agree with Maryann.I use the flower pot votive and I am pleased.No worries about this problem and simple.Charge a tad bit more but people get a long burn votive for a good price.I will do tarts.Votives turn out good but do not burn in containers that great.
Also before I started making candles I did not have a votive container and used a plate to burn.That also was a mistake and I was unhappy with my burn results.So if people do not have containers and use whatever they have this can become a problem.I used to be that one customer.I learned.
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Re: Picture of my Problem
« Reply #10 on: Jul 5th, 2005, 11:30am » |
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How many hours of burn do you get from your votive?
Do you get a different length "burn" in the cup you're showing from a straight sided cup???
Is this a 2oz votive OR a 3oz dixie votive???
I still have not made any votives, but have sold many of them... (By the way, I've seen many - many votives burn just like yours and - at least in my opinion - I think yours is just fine!)
Maybe this will help you see about the "burn" more clearly.
There're several "type" holders designed to burn votive candles in:
First is a straight/tight fitting type -- this is the one we 'like' to recommend, since you get the longest burn from the wax AND next to no residue in the bottom of the holder when it's finished!
(NOTE: With the right size votive - I think 2oz - I can achieve a clean burn AND a long burn using an "Oyster Cup"! So, the 'tight fit' is most important if it is at the bottom...)
Next you have what I refer to as a spill-over cup. It can be fancy -- blown crystal - w/a peg to use in a candleholder ??? This cup is NOT tight fitting and the votive candle will spill off and, eventually, when all the wax is burned, there will be a ring of wax left at the bottom of this holder. There is no possible way all the wax will be gone from this style votive cup, since it is out of the 'reach' of the wick's burn area...
(Many people use and like the above type holder, since it is very decorative AND, many times, votives are burned for pretty -- not smell.)
Then, of course, there are those people who will burn on a plate or saucer. Again, you'll get a ring of wax - around where the votive sets - the wax will not burn... Hopefully, the plate is wide enough, however, that the wax does not melt over the edge and onto the furniture... (Hey, in a pinch, what you gonna do????????)
So, anyway, MOST Votives are harder than Container Candles, but not as hard as Pillar Candles... (A goal for 2oz votives is to burn approx 15hrs.)
I know some candlers want a votive to be like a mini pillar AND, I think that's great; however, it's not necessarily the only option...
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