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geekrunner
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I have a case of Anchor Hocking 12 oz (supposedly) Red Ruby apothecary jars from eBay a couple of months ago, intending to make Christmas candles for gifts.
I recently received my sample FO and wick package from Peak's (woo-hoo!) and decided to get busy with this now. I have about 25 lb of S1 left, so I'm using it up for this project.
Heated 1 lb S1 wax to 185o, added 1 oz Home for the Holidays FO, which should have been a 6% load. Mixed with a wire whisk intermittently till cooled to 135 o, and poured 8 oz each in two jars. Ambient room temp was ab 76o. After 30 hours cooling time, I drilled a wick hole halfway down and inserted an HTP 105. Below is pic of first 4 hour burn:
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #1 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 6:46am » |
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I'm a little disappointed. The melt pool was 3/8" deep, and due to the curl of the wick, it left a "crescent moon" of wax on the opposite side of the curl. The hot throw (or cold throw either) did not seem very strong, even though it was lit for over an hour in the bedroom. I'm not totaly unhappy with the wick, but not sure if I should wick up or try another type that will not curl. I like the smell of the FO, and I know I don't have candle nose, so perhaps it needs higher FO load. I know henryk may know how much of a load S1 can handle.
Any ideas?
P.S. The red jar sets off a really cool red glow. Very holiday-like IMHO 
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #2 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 7:46am » |
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Well, I have never tried the S1, so I am not quite sure what fragrance load it holds, but I would be willing to bet that you can get a bit more FO in it. I know you already know that the S1 is discontinued and will not be available anymore. Personally I wouldn’t put a ton of testing into this wax unless you have a large quantity of it to use. But, to answer your question, IMO I think your melt pool is fine. There doesn’t appear to be a lot of hangup on the side of the jar. The next burn or two may take care of that. I think going any higher will get your jar too hot. If your jar is over 3”, you might also consider double wicking with a couple of 62’s or 73’s (depending on the FO and size of the jar), that would help with the hang up.
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #3 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 8:39am » |
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You were right kaybee, two hours into the second burn it cleaned up nicely. The scent is better, but still a little weak for my taste. I do have quite a bit of S1 left out of a 50 lb box I bought on eBay, and soon will score some new current line wax and containers to test. My goal was to make nice smelly candles for family and friends, and to raise awareness for future sales.
I really like these jars, they are 3" x 4" and cost me ab $1.50 each. When I bought them, the seller had several dozen cases of them, and tried to sell them as collectors items being worth ab $15.00 each (HA!)
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #4 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 11:20am » |
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Go ahead and add 9% FO to test. S1 had a tendency to sweat FO when I used it though so if it does you can harden it up a bit by adding a bit of palm stearic if you have it (but then you may get some frosting). Really though, I agree with Kaybee - don't waste too much time and money on this wax at this point ...
HTH
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #5 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 1:05pm » |
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If you're just testing the wick, then it's OK to test after 30 hours. If you want to test the throw, I would wait at least 3-4 weeks with S1. S1 hot/cold throw greatly improves with curing. Since your going to be using these for Christmas gifts, curing time won't be a problem.
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #6 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 5:53pm » |
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You guys are the coolest  I poured two of these, one will sit and cure per scott's recommendation, and the other will be the wick tester.
I pulled the HTP105 out of it in favor of an LX28. I'll try that tonight and see how it works. The second burn appeared to go well, but then the melt pool got really shallow and did not clean the sides completely. It could be due to the A/C (I found out later that mrs geekrunner  turned the A/C colder when she got up this AM) or not.
Thanks again for the tips!
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #7 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 9:22pm » |
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Ditto on the curing time - I think you'll be fabulously surprised if you can manage to keep your hands off for a week (or two is even better). There's just no comparison to the throw when I cure vs. burn within a few days.
I LOVE your jars!
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #8 on: Jun 30th, 2005, 10:22am » |
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Status report! The LX28 seems to provide a slightly shallower MP but does not curl. I may try going up to the LX30 after this last burn. So far, finishing up on four 4-hour burns.
I have some pillar projects nearly done, I will post in the Gallery soon.
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #9 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 7:05pm » |
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Status report! LX30 has full 1/2" MP and cleans the jar after 3.5 hours. Also hot throw is getting better. I will wick the other candle after a couple of more weeks of curing.
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Re: First REAL testing
« Reply #10 on: Jul 5th, 2005, 12:11pm » |
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BEAUTIFUL CONTAINERS, they'll make a NICE gift. Your smart to work out the kinks now (I didn't w/ a christmas tin and now have 50 for this season to STILL figure out). If you do them now WOW your candles should smell awesome they'll have a GREAT cure time  . I have some from last December, spiced eggnog and the scent is so powerful now  .
Haven't worked w/ the wicks your talking about but I'd try the next size up. Maybe burn them side by side and see which one does better in the same amount of time. GREAT thing about soy is when your done you can wipe out container and wash w/ soap and water to reuse. I know this is a controversial thing I only do if the container I'm working w/ is thick and I know it hasn't been misused (dropped, etc) to prevent shaddering. GOOD LUCK!!
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