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Holly
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Frosting after a burn
« on: Jun 28th, 2005, 5:17pm » |
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Hi everyone,
I have been able to get most of my soy candles to be frost free when they are "new" (before a burn) but the frost always appears after the first burn. Is this usually the case with most soy wax or no matter what you add and do, etc? I read earlier where someone was concerned that customers may not like to get a frost surprise after receiving a frostless (or almost frostless) candle -- thinking that there may be something wrong with it or that it is just not attractive. I personally don't mind all that much if there is frost because of all the other benefits that soy offers. I have asked a few of my friends and they said that it would not really bother them. How do most of your costomers or new customers react to the frosting after it burns?
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~Holly
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kaybee23
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Re: Frosting after a burn
« Reply #1 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 5:33pm » |
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Frosting will appear after burning unless you put something in your wax to help keep it down. A lot of people including myself use beeswax in it and it helps a lot. Just a small percentage will help. Sometimes some of them still frost a bit, but not as bad. I have never sold mine without the beeswax, but my customers understand that soy is prone to frosting and don't view it as a defect in the candle. Mine don't do it much, but no one has ever complained about it. They have burned them so much that they know the frosting doesn't interfere with the throw of the candle.
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Holly
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Re: Frosting after a burn
« Reply #2 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 5:43pm » |
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Hi Kaybee,
Thank you. I do add the Universal Additive. I believe I got it from Moonglow Candle Supplies. I have been adding only 1 tablespoon per pound of wax -- this amount was suggested by some. It makes a very pretty new candle but the frosting does seem to always appear after a burn. I do get frosting once in a while with a new candle. It usually will be a circular frosting mark right in the middle of the jar's side wall -- not the best place to have it to the eye. lol My house temperature does fluctuate quite a bit and this may have something to do with the frosting that I get now and then with the newly poured candle -- when it goes to harden over night after being poured.
Thanks for your encouragement. I have been using the CB-3 Calsoy. I really love this wax and have really enjoyed the benefits of soy compared to the paraffin waxes that I have tested/used.
~Holly
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Meca
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Re: Frosting after a burn
« Reply #3 on: Jun 29th, 2005, 12:16pm » |
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I don't worry about frosting with my soy candles. My customers don't mind it either. I think that it is more of a PITA to try and get rid of them so I just embrace it.
I believe that if you add some bees wax to your soy it will help lessen the frosting that appears. I couldn't tell you what %.
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maryann
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Re: Frosting after a burn
« Reply #4 on: Jul 5th, 2005, 12:24pm » |
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Frosting can happen at any time! I was talking to an experienced FO supplier one time who through experimenting felt that the change in the air (whether it be temp, humidity, etc) is what causes the frosting. Its really the nature of soy along w/ pitting and other embraceable characteristics the benefits really do out weight these characteristics. Its kinda like the natural "defects" that are adherant to glass and wood (I guess its true you can't fool w/ nature  ). I've had beautiful candles that over a month or two's time became frosted. Customers in my experience don't mind especially when they're getting a great strong smelling candle.
I like Meca's advise to embrace it (the frost), its so true -either you embrace and accept it or be bald from the fustration 
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Meridith
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Re: Frosting after a burn
« Reply #5 on: Jul 5th, 2005, 6:20pm » |
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Frosting is just a natural characteristic of soy and there's not much you can do about it. Adding BW can help, but you will still at times get it. I always explain this to my customers and have even put some language in my brochures that explains this.
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Holly
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Re: Frosting after a burn
« Reply #6 on: Jul 5th, 2005, 9:37pm » |
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Thanks for your responses, Meca, Maryann and Merideth. Meca and Maryann, you made me laugh and I agree. Merideth, I am sure that I will be explaining to the customers too why the candles have the frost, etc., especially when I first start out selling I am sure. I also have thought that I would put something in the language inside my brochures, etc.
Thanks again everyone for your responses. I will embrace the frosting as well as some of the other quirks like I embraced wet spots with paraffin. I love the clean burn and how soy enhances the fragrance (at least I think that it enhances it). 
~Holly
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