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Linda_in_AK
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Frosted Jar Problem
« on: Jul 8th, 2005, 6:21am » |
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I've made 36 test candles in frosted 10 oz apothecary jars, using J300 wax and 1oz/lb scent, and have now test burned 12 of them. As the wax in each of the tester jars burns down, the frosting on the jars appears considerably lighter. This results in heavier frosting from the original fill line of the wax to the top of the neck opening, and a noticeably "clearer" looking glass downwards from the original fill line (although it really isn't clear, just looks like a lighter frosting). The end result is a really ugly looking container candle, partially frosted as received, partially much lighter frosted (almost "wet" looking, and the rest with unconsumed wax. (Hope I've described this well enough - not good enough with digital pictures to send you one.)
Does anyone use frosted jars and know what is causing this and is it "normal?" I did notice that all the frosted jars I received were frosted on the inside as well as the outside of the jars. Frosted jars I am familiar with have more of a smooth glass on the inside and the frosting is just on the outside.
I contacted the supplier (very reputable) and they have never heard of this problem and don't have an answer. They said they have never received this type of complaint.
I'm considering switching to clear glass (though I really like the frosted look), and using the frosted jars for potpourri or maybe the aroma beads or maybe for wickless candles. Really don't want to use the frosted jars for a final product if that's the way they handle the wax. I've tried to become accustomed to this "look" on the jars, but I just can't. I really don't want this kind of finished candle sitting on any of my tables, much less eventually try to sell them (after much much more testing, of course). I am trying to produce a more "high-end" look to my container candles, and this frosting problem just looks messy.
Can anyone help?
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SatinDucky
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Re: Frosted Jar Problem
« Reply #1 on: Jul 8th, 2005, 7:44am » |
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I haven't made any in the frosted jars, but I have bought them before. It seems it's because of the frosting on the inside. The lighter frost has the tiniest amount of wax on it. Just like if you were to get one wet. Where it's wet, there's less frost until it dries. If you could find frosted jars that are smooth on the inside, it would probably solve the problem. JMO
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kjbrook
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Re: Frosted Jar Problem
« Reply #2 on: Jul 8th, 2005, 7:48am » |
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It sounds like there is a bit of wax left on the inside of the jar creating the wet look. I would test some jars that are frosted on the outside only to be sure that is the solution.
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jillgunter
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Re: Frosted Jar Problem
« Reply #3 on: Jul 8th, 2005, 7:51am » |
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I have heard alot of people have issues with frosted jars. Maybe you have wet spots, which are when the wax is not completely adhered to the jar. Did you prewarm your jars before pouring? That can help with wet spots, but some wax etc is just prone to it.
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Re: Frosted Jar Problem
« Reply #4 on: Jul 8th, 2005, 12:51pm » |
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I had this same issue with some frosted jars too. I'll have to go look up the info, but it had something to do with the way the "frost" was applied to the jar. One way is better than the other and I'll go find that info...
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Linda_in_AK
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Re: Frosted Jar Problem
« Reply #5 on: Jul 9th, 2005, 8:33am » |
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Thanks to everyone! I have looked and looked for frosted jars that are only frosted on the outside and haven't been able to find any. Does anyone know of a supplier?
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Re: Frosted Jar Problem
« Reply #6 on: Jul 9th, 2005, 8:46am » |
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Haven't used these in candle making. However, did buy some frosted little flower vases from a $ store. When I washed them, the frosting peeled off. Then I noticed that the inside of the vases weren't frosted, so I guess they were just coated. Was really annoyed at how they went 
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Re: Frosted Jar Problem
« Reply #7 on: Jul 9th, 2005, 9:47am » |
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What I know about frosted jars. The two I am familiar with are: 1. The etched frosted jars...these are frosted so the frosting stays on the jar, 2. The coated frosted jars...these have a light film of colored, or white frosting which will eventually wash off. These type of jars are usually coated with a vegetable type frosting product...not great for candlemaking, or anything else in my opinion.
I have some Libbey beverage tumblers here that are frosted on the outside and not the inside...may want to try Libbey. If you would like me to send you a couple to try just PM me. I will charge shipping only since I got these samples for free from a supplier I work with.
A supplier you could try, who carries Libbey, Anchor Hocking, and many more glassware brands is: www.marckassoc.com
They are out of Ohio. Their website is NOT a purchasing website, but if you call them, they are very helpful. I hope this helps you some.
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