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Blest2BAmerican
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #40 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 7:55pm » |
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #41 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 7:58pm » |
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on Jul 10th, 2005, 7:55pm, Blest2BAmerican wrote:| Rob for President in 2008! |
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #42 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 8:45pm » |
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LOL Rob. Who isn't sick of all the violence and the killing? And you for pres in 2008 eh? You just wanna drop a bomb lol!
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #43 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 8:52pm » |
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on Jul 8th, 2005, 5:05pm, Candle_Kitty wrote:
Our way is simple. You don't like us? Oh sorry, let's make you really hate us and go to war with you. We don't like your religion, okay, well let's really throw fuel to the fire and go over there and Christianize your population. I am a 36 year old, single female PAGAN and I know EXACTLY what it's like to be persecuted for MY RELIGIOUS PREFERENCE and I can actually RELATE to anyone that has to deal with someone looking down on them for their beliefs.
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Ummm... where the hell did this come from?? I thought this post was about terrorist attacks and retaliation against said terrorists. Your beliefs are your and you're welcome to them! Nobody here is persecuting you for anything, so there's no need to yell at us. I don't give a hoot about religious preferences when it comes to terrorists, whether they're pagan, christian, muslin, atheist or any of the other organized/unorganized religions out there. They're still guilty of killing innocent people!
As for nuking them... nope, I don't care for that idea. LOL Yes, something drastic needs done to stop them, and I have no clue what. But nuking is to too drastic for everyone and will affect the world, killing innocents, radioactive fallout, etc. I also don't believe we have any business over there trying to change they're culture. I don't care for a lot of their beliefs, like the way women are treated etc, but it's their way, not ours. If they were asking us to come over and help them change that would be different. If they wanted a free, democratic system, they would come here, they don't.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #44 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 9:02pm » |
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on Jul 10th, 2005, 8:45pm, Scented wrote:| LOL Rob. Who isn't sick of all the violence and the killing? And you for pres in 2008 eh? You just wanna drop a bomb lol! |
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #45 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 9:03pm » |
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And what about Angelina Rob? Somehow I don't think that will turn her on.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #46 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 9:06pm » |
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on Jul 10th, 2005, 8:52pm, SatinDucky wrote:
If they wanted a free, democratic system, they would come here, they don't.
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Easier said that done to just pick up and go. I know I would struggle to get the hell outta somewhere. Leave with nothing, start with nothing and no guarantees you could get in.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #47 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 10:27pm » |
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on Jul 10th, 2005, 9:03pm, Scented wrote:| And what about Angelina Rob? Somehow I don't think that will turn her on. |
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K...will have to get Angelina first, then run for pres, win, then push the little red button. Scented!! I need you to run my campaign for the next election! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll even make sure all yoru candles and b&b stuff is bought for the white house and all places we up put up who ha's from around the world (of course those that wont blow us to shit)
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #48 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 10:29pm » |
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Oh I can't do that! You'd make me eat mushrooms 
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #49 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 10:29pm » |
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on Jul 10th, 2005, 9:06pm, Scented wrote:
Easier said that done to just pick up and go. I know I would struggle to get the hell outta somewhere. Leave with nothing, start with nothing and no guarantees you could get in. |
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Then make a stand where you are. If you believe in something enough, stand up for it and do not be afraid to die for it.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #50 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 10:31pm » |
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I'm not afraid of death  (adding or to die for a cause)
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #51 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 10:31pm » |
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on Jul 10th, 2005, 10:29pm, Scented wrote:| Oh I can't do that! You'd make me eat mushrooms |
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I swear on the my many grandfathers who have died for this country for many centuries that I would never make you eat a mushroom. But I will also tell you when to turn your head so you don't see the blast, that leaves the mushroom clould.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #52 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 10:34pm » |
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on Jul 10th, 2005, 10:31pm, Scented wrote:| I'm not afraid of death (adding or to die for a cause) |
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #53 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 11:31pm » |
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Ummm... where the hell did this come from?? I thought this post was about terrorist attacks and retaliation against said terrorists. Your beliefs are your and you're welcome to them! Nobody here is persecuting you for anything, so there's no need to yell at us. I don't give a hoot about religious preferences when it comes to terrorists, whether they're pagan, christian, muslin, atheist or any of the other organized/unorganized religions out there. They're still guilty of killing innocent people
Ducky, I love you dearly, but it IS about religion. And I'll tell you why.
The MODERN Muslim faith follows five pillars, The Pillars of Islam. The first pillar is the faith of Oneness of God. And Muhammed, being the messenger of God received and delivered humanity's final revelations. Each Muslim is expected to say a prayer at least once in their life and if memory serves me correctly, it's something like 'none is worthy of worship except God and Muhammed is the messenger of God'.
The second pillar is the pillar of prayer. Each prayer is recited once a day, and there's five prayers. Morning, afternoon, mid-afternoon, evening and late evening. During these prayers, the Muslim is to face the city of Muhammed's birth, Mecca.
The third pillar is the pillar of financial responsibility to the Muslim community at large. The Islamic belief is that everything belongs to Allah and therefore, Muslims only hold their possessions in trust. This pillar also dictates that each Muslim must give up a portion of their capital each year to the community. They can give more, but if memory serves correctly, it must be done in secret.
The fourth pillar is the pillar of self-purification through fasting. I think that's self-explanatory, but to make it a wee bit more clear, during Ramadan, each Muslim is to abstain from food, drink, sex from sunrise to sunset.
The fifth and final pillar of MODERN Islam is a pilgrimage to Mecca. This must be done once in the Muslim's lifetime, IF they are physically and financially able to.
Now, what most don't seem to know is that there are actually SIX pillars of the Islam faith. The last pillar has since been removed from the Islam faith because it serves no real purpose, or I should say, SUPPOSEDLY serves no real purpose.
The sixth pillar gives the allowance for holy war, or Jehad against any and ALL who the Muslim feels is evil or a threat to the Islam belief. It also gives allowance for suicide, if the 'enemy of Islam' will die with the Muslim, and the Muslim will be rewarded and granted a hero's honor with Allah.
Now with THAT said, YES, this IS about religion. The terrorists are Muslims, and they follow the six pillars of Islam. The terrorists believe that the United States and anyone who believes in, follows, or basically even gives so much as a nod in our favor, is an enemy of Allah and therefore, MUST BE DESTROYED.
Inside the box, everyone sees the death and destruction. Step out of the box, you see the motivation and you get a better grasp at the situation AT LARGE.
To the Muslims that follow the six pillars, until the 'enemy of Islam' is destroyed, they will stop at nothing. If that means that every one of those terrorists goes up with a bomb or a plane or whatever else they can come up with, then so be it. And if that means that they kill off the entire human race and bring the world to burning embers, smoke and ash....so be it. It is, afterall, for Allah.
It's why I've been saying all along, there's a reason and why I brought religion into the discussion to begin with. Everyone hates the fact they're killing people, no one wants to take a second and see the reason WHY they are.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #54 on: Jul 10th, 2005, 11:48pm » |
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The terrorists are Muslims
Okay, then how come every single Muslim isn't doing suicide bombs? Why do we have peaceful Muslims here in the US doing their own thing and being good americans. Where this stuff comes from is from the fanatics (in all religions)that twist and find a way to use something written in their religion to back up the crap they are vomiting at us. And I dont mean just for Muslims. I mean for all religion. (sorry guys, I have issues with any organized religion and no offense intended here)
You said that when they step out of the box and look around, they will see that things will not be good until all their enemies are destroyed. Which... is us. I have no plans to lay down and die just so they can have their perfect world.
And if they feel that even dying whether they blow themselves up or we just happen to catch and kill them first... sends them to Allah and all is good...then fine, I have a way to send them all at once. They can all be happy.
Now of course that last paragraph was sarcastic. But the point I'm trying to make is that folks are saying we are pushing our way of life on them? Bullshit, they are blowing up our asses because their pillar says they can cause we are their enemy? There is something wrong with this picture.
And does the fact that the reason they all want to go see Allah make it okay that they are doing this? Just because they have some religion that says it's okay for them to do this or that does NOT make it okay for them to do this or that to the rest of the world.
Our way of life may not be the best... but shit, it's one of the best ones around today and I feel it's worth fighting for. But let's fight on an even keel. You want to push all your crap at me, well I'm pulling out my nuke card and playing that one.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #55 on: Jul 11th, 2005, 12:01am » |
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Quote:| Ducky, I love you dearly, but it IS about religion. And I'll tell you why. |
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How can you love me dearly, you don't know me from the man in the moon 
Added: If you'll read it carefully, no where did I say it had nothing to do with religion.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #56 on: Jul 11th, 2005, 1:21am » |
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on Jul 10th, 2005, 11:31pm, Candle_Kitty wrote:
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Yeah, well it's about time they became "EVOLVED" like the rest of us. They want spiritual pillars, how about these:
1) Love God
2) Enjoy Life
3) Don't take anything too seriously.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #57 on: Jul 11th, 2005, 2:49am » |
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on Jul 11th, 2005, 1:21am, Alohagirl wrote:
Yeah, well it's about time they became "EVOLVED" like the rest of us. They want spiritual pillars, how about these:
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Unfortunatly, I believe these fanatics would have those pillars, if we were all dead.
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #58 on: Jul 11th, 2005, 7:47am » |
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Wow,
I go to bed and you guys go to town. I have got alot of reading to do, and alot of thinking........
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Re: Explosions in London
« Reply #59 on: Jul 11th, 2005, 11:37am » |
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Did I seriously hear someone say that they were ashamed to live in this country? I think that is the saddest thing I've heard in a very long time. I begrudge no one their feelings, but shame is a very strong emotion/feeling, and why on earth would a grown adult continue to live somewhere that caused them to feel it? Seriously? What is it that keeps you from moving away?
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