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sune42
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Soap Recipies
« on: Apr 26th, 2004, 10:54pm » |
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Ok, I have looked on here, I have looked online and I have read many books. NO ONE TELLS YOU HOW TO CREATE YOUR OWN RECIPIE!!!!!
Ok, I am better now. Anyway, I saw someone say something about hard vs soft oils somewhere, and how much of each. Basicly I am not sure how much of what to put. How do you create, please share your wisdom mighty soaping masters.
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Re: Soap Recipies
« Reply #1 on: Apr 27th, 2004, 6:59am » |
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Basically I use 55 - 50% hard oils and butters & the rest is the soft oils. If you go to http://www.millersoap.com there is a topic on creating your own recipe and the qualities of each oil and what it contributes to the soap. I printed this out and use it as my bible for making a soap recipe. Then go to one of the online calculators and start plugging in the oils you plan to use.
I would start out designing small recipes first to see if you are satisfied with the results. Good luck.
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RobinInOR
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Re: Soap Recipies
« Reply #2 on: Apr 27th, 2004, 7:55am » |
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The very first batch I made had 8 oils in it I think  I went a bit overboard. I just google for "soap oil properties" for "fatty acid properties" and read about what oils are good for what. Miller is the definitive site, that's where I learned most, but I also like the charts at http://www.naturesapprentice.com/oilchart.htm
I put a recipe into the Sooz calculator http://www.soozcorner.com/formulator/soapformulator.htm and see how the numbers come out. Then I compare those numbers to how much I like the soap - that tells me what "my" numbers should be...
My general rules (just for me, what works for me, everyone else doesn't follow them)
- I don't use olive oil  this is definately only me, everyone else loves olive oil. So don't listen to me on this one.
- Coconut above 10% makes me itch. Though I did just make one with 45% coconut, so I break my own rules.
- I can tolerate up to 20% PKO in addition to the coconut
- At least 50% hard oil/butter (lard, tallow, palm, palm kernal, coconut, babassu, cocoa butter, shea butter, mango butter.....)
- I don't like shea in my recipe  but I've liked it in others' soaps.
- I try to use more of the oils that are local to me
- Castor above 5% makes my recipe sticky.
- When I try a new oil in my base recipe, I always try it at 10%
- My Sooz iodine value needs to stay in the low 70s or below.
- Always make 2# test batches.
I'm in a rut But these are my personal "dos and donts". Someone else will come up with totally different rules..
For example - the 50% hard oil/butter. Make a 100% olive oil and it will be extremely hard in a couple of months.
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Re: Soap Recipies
« Reply #3 on: Apr 27th, 2004, 8:29am » |
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Great list, Robin
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Re: Soap Recipies
« Reply #4 on: Apr 27th, 2004, 11:29am » |
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lol... My recipe has 9 different oils and butters! Guess I need to chop a few out. That's an awesome list, and thanks so much for your help Robin!
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Re: Soap Recipies
« Reply #5 on: Apr 27th, 2004, 12:04pm » |
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Well, gosh, don't listen to me! LOL. If you like your recipe, keep it These are pretty specific to me... Probably more generic would be
- many people are sensitive to coconut, so you might want to keep it down to 10-15%
- palm, tallow, lard are "similar" and can be substituted in recipes w/ a recalculation of lye and water.
- coconut, babassu, and palm kernal are "similar" as far as hardness, cleaning and bubbles go and can be substituted in recipes w/ a recalculation of lye and water.
- rice bran oil is a nice subtitute for olive oil. But olive is kind of "standard" in soap - it's nice and moisturizing.
- castor oil can help increase bubbles and improve the shine in your soap. 5% is a good level
- try for hard butters around 45% and up (better over 50%) unless you're going for a castile.
- soap with a 5% lye discount, it's a nice safe average.
- first time w/ a fragrance, don't discount your water very much until you know how it reacts.
- lots of cool oils to play with - sunflower, safflower, hemp, avocado, nut oils... each of these will soften your soap so make sure you've got hard oils to compensate..
- I like to try new oils at 10% so I know I can feel them. But 5% might be a good level too..
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Re: Soap Recipies
« Reply #7 on: Apr 28th, 2004, 9:42pm » |
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So much info. Thanks guys.
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